Login problems

Submitted by: asitnik – Wed, 11/04/2009 – 16:53

A teacher approached me today with "a problem that is driving me mad".
At home and elsewhere in the School, the teacher is able to login to our domain and e-mail.
However, in that teacher's homeroom it was different. Reboot, check connections, etc - the teacher could not login, but only in that classroom.
After verifying remotely that the computer was indeed connected and the password correct, a visit to the classroom was warranted.
The problem? Someone transposed two keys on the keyboard and because of that the teacher was entering the password wrong.
For once, this was a user error but not the user's fault!

Comment:  Touchy Subject

Rated: 5

... apparently this was not the typing teacher ...
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--- The Old Crab

The Old Crab – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 10:52

Comment:  Someone transposed two keys...

Rated: 2

Since "transposing" two keys doesn't happen by accident, was it obvious which student(s) needed to visit the principle's office?

CAPTCHA: RANDAM: what spelling errors are not when keys have been transposed.

fish – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 12:18

Comment:  Just out of curiosity...

Rated: 2

Which two keys were they? I know the German key layout has the Y and Z swapped from where Americans are used to finding them. Any German-speaking students in that class?

Morely – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 12:19

Comment:  the two keys switched were ...

Rated: 3

Two keys that would probably work in this case would be the "A" and the "F" keys. The student failing knows they are getting an "F" and they want an "A" so they swap the keys on the keyboard. Teacher types in an "F" but the student received and "A". The smart kids that earned at "A" would get an "F" and the teacher gets all the flak.

Whoa, someone in the cube next to me just AFRTED.

Les – Fri, 11/06/2009 – 12:26

Comment:  About the fitst three coments (touchy, someone, just)

Rated: 0

Touchy: The teacher is a non-native English speaker, not really fully versed with the QWERTY layout, and actually not with even the native language's layout either or the problem would have been detected.
Of course, since the password shows as dots and the teacher's name doesn't include the letters transposed, it couldn't be easily detected.
Someone: there is no way we could trace who did it, as it is possible it got done last year;
Just: No, not those two, but you did get one of them.

asitnik – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 13:29

Comment:  wow, that's such an easy and obvious prank

Rated: 2

I'm surprised I haven't heard of it being used before. Way back when I was in school I did that sort of thing with room numbers (including bathrooms). It was a giggle watching people rush into rooms and then rush out with a puzzled look on their faces.

Any non-touch typist could be fooled by that one. Especially if the pranksters limit the changes to just a couple of keys. What the heck, even a touch typist could stumble over it, figuring they are 'fat-fingering'. Who would think that there would be that sort of "hardware" problem.

Ron – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 21:28

Comment:  Qwerty and Dvorak

Rated: 2

I worked with a guy that had brought in a Dvorak keyboard, as he had taught himself how to type with that layout. One time the supervisor tried to use his computer for something, and was not able to figure out why everything he typed looked wrong. He was saying something about a virus, when he noticed the keys, That was the day he learned what a Dvorak layout was.

Genxcat – Fri, 11/06/2009 – 15:38

Comment:  conductor and composer?

Rated: 1

I thought they didn't talk..! qwerty was designed to prevent errors due to keys too close in rapid typing. dvorak was meant to be a better environment. wrong, like eubonics, and esperanto. good ideas live, the others are forgotten, due to not being viable.

CANJ - yeah

jonesy – Mon, 11/09/2009 – 15:44

Comment:  Actually, the QWERTY layout

Rated: 1
    Actually, the QWERTY layout was designed to prevent mechanical jams when two or more keys are pressed nearly simultaneously. It was designed as an inefficient layout that forced a delay, preventing the jamming of keys by fast typistsby forcing them to reach farther and with alternate hands for common patterns (wh, ing, th, gh, etc). The Dvorak layout on the other hand (pun intended) was designed to maximize typing speed in a computerized environment where mechanical jams were impossible.
    It's not that it was a bad idea, it's just that by the time it was invented it was too different from the standard layout that all typists were familiar with. That's not the same as with Eubonics, which is just a documentation of a particular speech pattern and dialect of English. It is a little similar to Esperanto, which was an attempt to resolve the Babel of languages but ran into the same problem of being "different" and "non-standard" that the Dvorak keyboard ran it to. Can you imagine the French dropping what was once the language international diplomacy for an invented language? Sacré bleu!
    Think about the history of IBM DOS and Microsoft Windows versus Unix and Linux in the business world. PCs did not become widespread in the business world until IBM put its Imprimatur on them with the IBM PC. As the 800-pound gorilla, they held sway back in the day. Any PC had to be "IBM Compatible" to join the corporate ranks. The rest, as they say, is history.
    VENRI: "I came to Rhode Island," said Caesar.
Stargzer – Wed, 11/18/2009 – 12:51

Comment:  Beyond the login

Rated: 4

20 years ago I was attending a month long operating system class. We all sat in front of terminals that had a certain amount of program capability. One student was a hacker on these devices. Many days you would never know what your terminal might do after that guy had set up a bunch macro keys for you. Someone found out who it was and retaliated by "fixing" his terminal during the final exam.

Aseries – Thu, 11/05/2009 – 20:53